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north 22 ( +1 | -1 )
KARO-CANN Defense Just wondering, regarding the Karo-Cann Defense (which I've heard alot about), has anyone played it to victory their games...eg: games that I could examine?Thanks in advance.

-Derek
tulkos 325 ( +1 | -1 )
here, [Event "Team Game"]
[Site "board #254615"" target="_blank">gameknot.com/chess.pl?board #254615";]
[Date "2002.06.28"]
[White "game"]
[Black "tulkos"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1447"]
[BlackElo "1513"]
[TimeControl "1/259200"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[Termination "normal"]

1. e4 c6 2. Nf3 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Bg5 Bf5
6. Bxf6 exf6 7. Bb5+ Nc6 8. Nc3 Bb4 9. Qe2+ Be7 10. O-O O-O
11. Rf-e1 Re8 12. Nh4 Be6 13. Ra-c1 Qc7 14. Qf3 Nxd4 15. Qd3 Nxb5
16. Qxb5 d4 17. Nd5 Bxd5 18. Qxd5 Bd6 19. Rxe8+ Rxe8 20. g3 Bc5
21. a3 g6 22. b4 Bb6 23. Nf3 Qc6 24. Qxc6 bxc6 25. Rd1 c5
26. Nd2 cxb4 27. axb4 Re2 28. Kf1 d3 29. cxd3 Rxf2+ 0-1

[Site "board #313799"" target="_blank">gameknot.com/chess.pl?board #313799";]
[Date "2002.08.14"]
[White "andrej"]
[Black "tulkos"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1466"]
[BlackElo "1499"]
[TimeControl "1/259200"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[Termination "normal"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. Nf3 Bg4 5. Be2 Nc6
6. c3 Nf6 7. O-O e6 8. h3 Bh5 9. Ne5 Bxe2 10. Qxe2 Nxe5
11. Qxe5 Bd6 12. Qe2 O-O 13. Bg5 h6 14. Bh4 Be7 15. Nd2 Qb6
16. b4 Rac8 17. Rfc1 Rc7 18. Nb3 Ne4 19. Nc5 Bxh4 20. Nxe4 dxe4
21. Qxe4 Bg5 22. f4 Bf6 23. a4 Rxc3 24. Rxc3 Qxd4+ 25. Qxd4 Bxd4+
26. Kh2 Bxc3 27. Rb1 Rd8 0-1
[Event "Team match"]
[Site "board #317994"" target="_blank">gameknot.com/chess.pl?board #317994";]
[Date "2002.09.03"]
[White "czekm8"]
[Black "tulkos"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1388"]
[BlackElo "1516"]
[TimeControl "1/259200"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[Termination "normal"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Nf3 Ngf6
6. Bd3 Nxe4 7. Bxe4 f5 8. Bxf5 Qa5+ 9. Bd2 Qxf5 10. O-O Nf6
11. Re1 Bd7 12. Nh4 Qb5 13. b3 O-O-O 14. a4 Qd5 15. Be3 Bg4
16. Nf3 Qf5 17. c3 e5 18. h3 Bxf3 19. Qxf3 Qxf3 20. gxf3 exd4
21. Bxd4 Bd6 22. Rad1 Bf4 23. Bxf6 Rxd1 24. Rxd1 gxf6 25. Rd6 Bxd6
0-1

[Event "8th GK tournament"]
[Site "board #352123"" target="_blank">gameknot.com/chess.pl?board #352123";]
[Date "2002.09.23"]
[White "magenta"]
[Black "tulkos"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1388"]
[BlackElo "1492"]
[TimeControl "1/172800"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[Termination "normal"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nf6 5. Nxf6+ exf6
6. Nf3 Bg4 7. Be2 Bd6 8. h3 Bh5 9. O-O Nd7 10. Re1 O-O
11. d5 cxd5 12. Qxd5 Be5 13. Qxb7 Nb6 14. Nxe5 Bxe2 15. Rxe2 Qd1+
16. Kh2 Qxe2 17. Ng4 Qxc2 18. b3 f5 19. Ne3 Qxf2 20. a4 f4
21. Ng4 Qg3+ 22. Kg1 Rfe8 23. Bd2 Re2 24. Ba5 Rae8 25. Rc1 h5
26. Rf1 hxg4 27. hxg4 Nd7 28. Bc7 Re2e1 29. Bxf4 Rxf1+ 0-1

[Event "Lets play chess"]
[Site "board #381427"" target="_blank">gameknot.com/chess.pl?board #381427";]
[Date "2002.10.12"]
[White "mblasco"]
[Black "tulkos"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1508"]
[BlackElo "1516"]
[TimeControl "1/259200"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[Termination "normal"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. c4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bf5
6. Bd3 Bxd3 7. Qxd3 dxc4 8. Qxc4 e6 9. Nf3 Nc6 10. O-O Bd6
11. Re1 O-O 12. Bg5 h6 13. Bd2 Qc7 14. d5 Nxd5 15. Qh4 Be7
16. Qh3 Nxc3 17. Bxc3 Rad8 18. Re4 Qd6 19. Bxg7 Kxg7 20. Rg4+ Kh7
21. Ng5+ Bxg5 22. g3 Qe5 23. f4 Qe4 24. fxg5 Qe3+ 25. Kh1 Qf3+
26. Kg1 Rd1+ 27. Rxd1 Qxd1+ 28. Kg2 Rd8 29. Qxh6+ Kg8 30. Kh3 Qf1+
31. Kh4 Qg1 32. g6 Qxh2+ 33. Kg5 Rd5+ 34. Kf4 Qxh6+ 0-1



macheide 66 ( +1 | -1 )
north Dear friend,

I used to play the Caro-Kann Defense during many years. Today I only play the Sicilian, so I haven't games played with the Caro in this site.

I can say you that it is solid like a rock and contrary to the common thinking, it's not as simple to play, and not a drawish defense either.

A super aggresive player like Gary Kasparov used it a lot in his youth.

If you are interested in this defense:

"Caro-Kann Defense, Classical Variation" by G. Kasparov and one of his first trainers.

"Caro-Kann in Black and White" by A. Karpov and Beliyavsky

"Caro-Kann, the Advance Variation" by Byron Jacobs

Best regards.
kingslinger 110 ( +1 | -1 )
Caro-kann is one of the best responses to 1.e4, I don't play it as black but I did have a lot of trouble developing an opening advantage against it as white...the classical variation allows black smooth and easy development, while the panov-botvinnik attack allows black good development and counterplay against white's isolated queen pawn, I finally decided upon the strange-looking advance variation, (1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5) this passive looking move closes the center, and gives white a nice space advantge, often cramping black's game and making it difficult to develop his pieces. SO if you choose the caro-kann, make sure you are prepared for this variaiton or you will find yourslef struggeling. In one of my games here, I played this variation against the caro-kann and as usual my opponent had serious problems developing and I currently have all my minor pieces out, my king castled and my rooks connected, while my opponent's pieces are uncoordinated and he is fighting a strong queenside onslaught... board #649484
macheide 27 ( +1 | -1 )
kingslinger has all the reason when he advises you about the Advance Variation, not the only fashion move order, but Nigel Short's one: 1.e4 c6, 2.d4 d5, 3.e5 Bf5, 4.Nf3!

If you want to play against this line, I strongly recommend you to study Karpov games (with black pieces).

Best regards.
north 28 ( +1 | -1 )
thanks for responding Thank you for getting back to me about this defense. Macheide: the book recommendations will be a big help, and Tulkos, thanks for the notation.
Kingslinger: Yes, I've played that variation myself, losing the game as a result.

Thanks all...hope I'll successfully be able to pick it up.

-Derek
peppe_l 44 ( +1 | -1 )
I play Caro-Kann But for some reason it has been some time since I won a Caro-Kann game here (cant blame the opening, my opponents have been very good players). Heres an interesting draw though :-)

qiwi (2000) - peppe_l (2032) [B19]

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Bf5 5.Ng3 Bg6 6.h4 h6 7.Nf3 Nd7 8.h5 Bh7 9.Bd3 Bxd3 10.Qxd3 Qc7 11.Rh4 e6 12.Bf4 Bd6 13.Bxd6 Qxd6 14.Ne4 Qe7 15.0-0-0 Ngf6 16.Nxf6+ gxf6 17.Qd2 0-0-0 18.Qa5 Kb8 19.Rd3 Rhg8 20.g3 Qd6 21.Ra3 a6 22.Rb3 f5 23.Rh1 c5 24.Rd3 f4 25.dxc5 Qc7 26.Qxc7+ Kxc7 27.gxf4 Nxc5 28.Rxd8 Kxd8 29.Kd2 1/2-1/2

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north 17 ( +1 | -1 )
what about Thanks peppe_l
What about the continuation of
1. e4 c6 2. Nc3 f5 3.exf5 Nf6: Anything about this gambit?
peppe_l 27 ( +1 | -1 )
Dont know The gambit you gave...doesnt look so good to me and to be honest I prefer something more solid anyway. Often 1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 is an indication that white wants to play two knights variation 1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Nf3, when 3...Bg4 is best move, giving black excellent chances of equality.
north 27 ( +1 | -1 )
Thanks Peppe_l thanks again...the reason I ask is I've played it to success (albeit with a <1100 player), and wasn't really crazy about it myself, just curious if it's an actual variation.
Thanks!
justice4catz 12 ( +1 | -1 )
watch out there are quite a few rapid and not transparent losses with this opening. learn these to avoid

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